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Commercial debt collection scam by Ray Aubrey of Electronic Resources Inc

July 27, 2012 By: FraudInfo Category: Confirmed frauds

A lawyer in Washington State received an email from the purported Ray Aubrey of Electronic Resources Inc with regards to a commercial debt litigation scam. For examples of other names attached to this kind of fraud see our Confirmed Fraud Page. For an explanation of how this fraud works see our Fraud Fact Sheet.

Here is the initial email:

From: Ray Aubrey [mailto:rayaubreyray@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:42 PM
To: lawyer email
Subject: Debt Collection


We are Electronic Resources Inc in Honolulu, Hawaii a private company categorized under Wholesale Electronic Equipment and Supplies. We are established in 1989 and incorporated in Hawaii. We have a collection matter in your area.
Please advice is you are taking on new case at this moment its very urgent.

Yours Sincerely

Ray Aubrey (President)
Electronic Resources, Inc.
534 Ohohia Street # A
Honolulu, HI 96819-1989
rayaubreyray@gmail.com


When the lawyer replied he got this response:


Thanks for the your responds, our debtor information is below the debt owe $1,200,000.00, We like to know if you have conflict that will prevent you from representing us against Allied Electronics, Inc. We have explored all avenues to resolve this issue amicably, unfortunately we have not progressed as expected.

Debtor
Allied Electronics, Inc.
19625 61st Avenue S # C105
Kent, WA 98032

Please advise us on your retainer fees for collection and send us retainer agreement ( engagement letter) looking forward hearing from you.

Regards
Ray Aubrey (President)


Finally, with no action taken on the lawyer’s part, the “debtor” miraculously decided to pay up:

I am delighted to inform you that I received a message from our customer they have issued a pay of $650,000.00 to your firm as a part of the money owed us to avoid litigation brought against them and to pay the balance $550,000.00 by August, 2012

The customer has made the payment in bank draft/certified cheque as I was informed that the funds would be made available upon deposit.
However, you will have your retainer fee deducted from this sum we will sign an authorization for you to deduct your retainer fee from the payment, please send us the agreement to sign the authorization and this will give us a good note to start off as agreed by my board of directors.

Please we should pause any action at this time and we shall see if they did really issue the payment as they have promised.

Kindly advice us once you have receive and deposit the payment in your account.

Regards
Ray Aubrey

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One Response to “Commercial debt collection scam by Ray Aubrey of Electronic Resources Inc”


  1. Bill Barton says:

    This turned out to be a scam perpetrated by unknown people trying to use lectronic Resources, Inc. of Honolulu, Hawaii to scam attorneys all over the USA.
    Several attorney’s fell for the scam, and you’d think that attorney’s would be a bit more careful of these scams as the scammers were actually after the attorney’s funds with the advanced money order/cashier’s check scheme. After sending attorney’s their scam letters and phony checks, they demanded a refund from the attorney’s trust funds before the checks would clear. It’s called ‘check kiting’!



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