Business loan collection scam using the names John Richard and Eric Thurber
Date First Reported: September 2015
Primary Name Associated: John Richard
Description of Potential Fraud:
Two Ontario firms notified us that they received an email from the purported John Richard looking to retain them with regards to a breach of a business loan agreement.
This is a classic bad cheque scam that presents as legal matter requiring the assistance of a lawyer. In this scam lawyers will be duped into wiring real funds from their trust accounts after depositing a fake cheque received as payment from the debtor (who is part of the fraud).
See our Confirmed Fraud Page for more of an explanation of how these frauds work and other names associated with it , and our Fraud Fact Sheet for a list the red flags of a bogus legal matter that is really a fraud.
Here is the initial contact email sent to the lawyer:
From: john richard [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: September 11, 2015 10:59 AM
To: Sean Taylor
Subject: COLLECTION MATTER
I need a Collection expert who can handle a collection issue.
A referral would be welcome if this is not your area of practice.
Replying to the email brought this response:
Thank you so much for your email.
I am Mr John Richard . I want you to help me receive outstanding debt from Eric Thurber on my behalf .He made commitment to pay the money
Debtor: ERIC THURBER
Balance $220,000.00 plus 7%. Annual interest for 3years.
The fund is part of the loan ERIC took from me.
The point of disagreement between the debtor and I is on the interest at 7%.
Due to the fact that he is ready to pay the principal with a downward negotiation of the interest gives me this assumption.
I am ready as it is now to negotiate a review of the interest. he assured me that he will pay a substantial part of the capital now then he will pay the balance install mentally as we may agree.
Find attached copy of Loan Contract. Please contact Mr. Eric via his
Email: [email protected] for more details about the situation My best regard, John Richard
How to handle a real or suspected fraud
If you have been targeted by any of these frauds, please forward any of the emails and supporting documents that you have received to [email protected]
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